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Administrator [19 Sep 2004|03:57pm]
wow...it's been forever and a half since i've posted in here.

but lots has happened and stuff got crappy, so i haven't been online a whole bunch.

but i will soon start posting news articles again and everyone can comment on them and whatnot.

just thought i'd post and let everyone know i wasn't dead and i still plan on keeping this thing running.

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im new [19 Aug 2004|06:32pm]

[ mood | bored ]

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[29 Mar 2004|07:37pm]

Hey anyone read anything about HAITI lately?

if you havent.. read... http://haitisupport.gn.apc.org/fea_news_index.html .. and talk about it. its fairly close to home.
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[27 Mar 2004|10:32pm]

[ mood | curious ]


*echoes* Hellooooooo?!?

Anyone there?



What does everyone think of the presidential candidates?

I think Kerry's cool, but Bush will probably win.

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Jennifer (Moderator) [17 Mar 2004|09:45am]
Sorry guys, I didn't die. Although, I did finally get a new job which might be close to the same thing. Hmm....

But anyway, that explains MY lack of participation. Duty has called and I have unfortunately answered. Blah

I suppose I should come up with a new topic to get everyone started.

OHHHH....I've got one. What do you think of the woman who used a "1 million Dollar Bill" to pay for her purchases at wal-mart? Ha.

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[06 Mar 2004|07:34pm]

[ mood | worried ]

I'm going on vacation and I'm going to be gone until next Thursday, so don't delete me while I'm gone, okay? Thanks.

Oh, and Martha Stewart sucks. End.

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[06 Mar 2004|06:24pm]

How about something on our favorite person..
MARTHA (stewart)!!
I dont quite understand what has been going on with her.
all i know is that my favorite blanket is made by her. and its warm. I see nothing bad about that....sofar.
Prove me wrong?
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[05 Mar 2004|07:46am]

Ok, Ok, Ok....I've decided to not be a bitch and drop the rule about posting 2 times a week. Mainly because everyone seems to not like it very much and I'm usually a pretty flexible person. But please try to post as much as you can so it doesn't become a community where nothing goes on. That's boring :P

I need more members I think. But I'm still refusing to promote this community on other people's journals. It annoys me, so why annoy everyone else?

Right now I don't have another news thing. Mainly because I'm too lazy to go look one up. But whatever you want to talk about, feel free
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[05 Mar 2004|09:31am]

ACK. i dont have time to be posting twice a week...

So ill write something while im here.
On the whole cloning topic, i dont think whole people should be cloned. Body parts, yes.. but not whole living humans who think and live. I just dont think that is right unless its for something like some parents who lost their child in a car accident, fire, or anything like that... then its okay i suppose. Im not really sure thought so im hesitant to take sides.
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i suppose i'm about to be removed [04 Mar 2004|11:39am]

...and suppose we dont have the time to post at least twice a week. I'm not home too often, but when I am I'm doing my homework or sleeping. Luckily, i've found time between classes at school, otherwise i would have risked my removal from this community.
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Oh boy, Jennifer made a new rule...let me hurry up and follow it!! [03 Mar 2004|01:16pm]

[ mood | thoughtful ]

Heh...just kidding!

Although, Jen, I'd wait until I had about twenty people join before I go enforcing a rule like that. Otherwise you'll end up having no members. But that's just me.

One of the major prob's I see with cloning is how extremely uninformed most people are about it. Cloning is already being used in mainstream America all the time. Dolly wasn't the first and hasn't been the most recent by far. She only got the most media attention because it was the first successful clone using the technique that the scientist that made her used which was using a cell taken from Dolly and importing DNA into an egg cell of Dolly and making a clone that way. There are several other techniques to cloning that have had rampant success in other parts of the world. Scientist in Japan recently cloned I believe 100 rats from 1 single rat. They lost 30 of them to disease early on, but the rest survived well into maturity and died a normal death. Scientist at Texas A&M recently cloned a cat (and named it CC for Copy Cat) and it survived and is still alive today.

Farmers all over the country have cloning available to them for their animals. They don't use it simply because it is to expensive and they aren't sure if they can sell meat or milk from a cloned cow. The FDA is still looking into it before they give it the go ahead. What's the point of spending so much money to clone a cow if you can't sell it to anyone?

About a year ago, a religious sect that calls themselves Raelien's claimed to have cloned a human. It wasn't ever proven that it was an actual clone, though, because no tests were allowed to be performed on the child and the person the child was cloned from. The Raelien's claimed that the parents were the ones who wouldn't allow the testing, but everyone else thinks it was because the baby wasn't actually a clone and it's all just a big stunt. The Raelien's actually own a company called ClonAid which claims to be the first human cloning company. More information can be found at their website here.

Personally, I don't have a problem with cloning. There are several positive uses for cloning. If they have their way, soon gay and lesbian couples will be able to marry and they will want children. Cloning would be a way to allow these people to have a child that would truly be theirs. Many hetrosexual couples are unable to have children but they still want children and cloning would help in that area as well. Also, families that have lost a child at a very young age would be allowed to have a second chance with that child if they so chose.

The only problems with cloning human's at the moment aren't the techniques to do it. Cloning happens on almost a daily basis, we just call it natural. During pregnancy, it is not uncommon for an egg to seperate and become two identical children, what we call twins. There are several successfully tested techniques that would work to clone a human. The only problem with cloning comes at the psychological level. What would happen if suddenly you were told that you are an exact replica of one of your parents? Or if you were an exact replica of a child that died several years ago? Or maybe even another child that is still alive? How would you take that? And the psychological problems don't just exist with the clones. If an adult had a clone of himself/herself, it is very possible that the adult would have a high expectation for his/her clone, expecting it to be just as good if not better than himself/herself.

There is also the idea that that problem might not even exist. That there is no such thing as a cloned person. The cat that I mentioned earlier, CC, was an exact copy of an adult cat which was a calico cat. However, the pattern of her fur was different because of differences in the womb during birth. Some scientists believe that because of this, even a cloned human would be a completely different person. What makes us who we are are our life experiences and those are shaped by the place in time where we grew up, the location where we grew up and the people around us. Some speculate that a clone wouldn't even look the same as the person the clone was cloned from.

Cloning will be a reality in just a few years. There are too many positives to be able to deny that. Cloning would allow thousands of cows to be cloned from just one cow and could very well lead to an end to starvation in the world. Cloning basic animals has already been successfully tested and is just waiting for the approval of the FDA. The next big question is humans. The only thing holding back that is the ethical standpoints. At the moment, there are laws against it in the US (see the Cloning Prohibition Act of 1997) but scientists can still go to other countries to do it. The only real question is who will clone a human first and will it be a perfect child. If everyone turns on their TV sets one day and sees that there has been a cloned human and it is a cute, perfect child, then it will most likely be passed into everyday life. But if everyone turns on their TV and hears that there was a clone but it died soon after birth because of problems during cloning, then it won't.

That's what I have to say about cloning.

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cloning [03 Mar 2004|11:04am]

[ mood | melancholy ]

My thoughts on cloning are somewhat complex.  cloning by itself is not a bad thing.  imagine if you could replace a limb or organ that otherwise would be unable to be replaced.  or how about a "brain" transfer to a new body to help paraplegics.  the problems occur when you try to decide who is the real person and who is the clone.  or even more basic, is the clone a person by itself.  how would we control cloning, what would the impacts be...who knows.  for now we have dolly who developed genetic problems that killed her at an early age, so we are not ready to start cloning on a large scale.  we barely know anything about the human genome as we have only recently mapped it.  now we must learn before we go further than we are prepared to tolerate as a society.

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Jennifer (Moderator) [03 Mar 2004|09:51am]

[ mood | awake ]

Well, since everyone has died I decided that I would just go ahead and post something.

I believe the last topic was cloning. My opinion on that is as long as it's not hurting anyone, why not? I actually think it's pretty interesting. I, myself, would rather not have a clone. I think that would be pretty weird. But I think it'd be kind of cool if someday it did work on humans and I'd like to see how the 2 acted toward each other.

But I don't think they should take it so far as to make a whole bunch of clones because that would kind of defeat the purpose of everyone being unique.


Oh, and new rule: I know I said I wouldn't be really picky about who joins and whatnot. But I've decided that one rule I should make and stick by is that if no one participates, those who don't should be removed. It's not really fair to join a community and not do anything with it. The whole purpose in joining is to get involved. So try to post something at LEAST 2 times a week, although most people are capable of more than that. If there aren't at least 2 posts a week I will start removing. I don't want to sound horribly crappy or anything, but I want people other than me to participate.

Please and Thank You

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[28 Feb 2004|02:22pm]
oh shoot...sorry about that. in my last entry i referred to jesse as a girl. i'm sorry :( i think i misunderstood something in your profile that made me think you were a girl.

sorry again, hope you'll forgive me haha :)

new current event time :) yay

Actually, I won't be posting a news article. I'd just like to know everyone's opinion on cloning.

That's all for today, I think. It's too nice outside to worry about too much else than going out and enjoying the day.
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[28 Feb 2004|01:52pm]

Oh, and just so it's known by everyone who isn't in on the joke...Ryan and I aren't gay...it's just this long running joke we have...
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[28 Feb 2004|10:56am]

I was the first memeber to join and I havent even posted yet...

I'm not big on the whole gay/lesbian marriage topics. I really dont mind what they do because it doesnt involve me, but whatever will help joe and ryan in their situation is probably best...so i guess im in favor of it...

next topic please
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[27 Feb 2004|05:57pm]

Hey everyone. I just joined here, so hopefully I'll have something smart to say soon.

Actually, ill further the whole Homosexuality discussion...

Not letting gay or lesbian couples marry, to me, is just like telling a male/female couple that they cant marry. If they're in love, then they should be able to make the decisions any other couple would be able to make. This all seems to me just like Black/White segregation and how they were treated like animals because they were different. It doesn't make much sense. People really shouldn't make a huge deal out of it because its not hurting anyone.. except maybe for Ahhhnold over in Cali. Its a money thing to them, though.

They don't know what it's like until they deal with it.

It really makes me think of the man who was tied to a fence and beaten to death because he was gay. It makes me sick to think people would go to such extremes simply because of their sexual preference. There's a movie about him, it has Christina Ricci... im not sure what its called... Or have you ever seen Angels In America? Amazing movie.

Im sure I could go on for a long time about this, but ill cut it short.
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Jennifer (Moderator) [27 Feb 2004|03:16pm]
[ mood | busy ]

yay! so i see we have a new member. and they're not someone that i know or promoted this community to on their journal. how exciting! :)

Her name is Jesse-"Hi Jesse!" *corny AA meeting voice goes here*

well it looks like the member count is rising, proving me wrong. we now have a whopping 4 members. only one member less than what i said i would post the news articles for. which i've already done, so it doesn't matter anymore

but yeah...just thought i'd welcome the new member and let everyone else know there's another one now

we still have the news article from my last entry. i'll try to post another one maybe tomoorrow. i really don't think we've have enough opinions on this one yet (only 1 so far from joe)

let's make that 2

My opinion on homosexuality is that I have no problem with it whatsoever. Sure, I get uneasy if I see a couple (male and male or female and female) right in front of me broadcasting their affection toward one another for the whole world to watch. but hey, they are people to and have every right to be together and get married if they want to. more power to them i guess. :)

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[26 Feb 2004|03:14pm]

I have the same idea on gay and lesbian people as I've had for about the past ten years.

Whatever you want to do in your bedroom is your own business, just so long as you don't parade it in front of me.

Bush just needs to leave these people alone and let them get married in peace.

*whispers*...then, I'll finally be able to marry Ryan...oh happy day!
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Jennifer (Moderator) News Article [26 Feb 2004|10:24am]

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I know it's been over debated already, but not by us. so yay! What do YOU think? Of course post it in your own entry, not in a comment. please and thank you :)

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